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A BDA Q&A with Brian Brennan, Head of Fixed Income Capital Markets at KeyBanc Capital Markets
A BDA Q&A with Brian Brennan, Head of Fixed Income Capital Markets at KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Mike Nicholas:
Mike Nicholas:
We are honored to talk today with Brian Brennan, Head of Fixed Income at KeyBanc Capital Markets but first we’re really pleased to be joined by Doug Preiser, Chief Operating Officer, and Brian’s boss here at KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Doug – Thanks for taking time for this and I wonder if you could tell us about KeyBanc Capital Markets and your working relationship with Brian?
Doug – Thanks for taking time for this and I wonder if you could tell us about KeyBanc Capital Markets and your working relationship with Brian?
Doug Preiser:
Doug Preiser:
KeyBanc Capital Markets is an integrated, corporate and investment banking firm that serves dynamic emerging growth and middle market companies capitalizing on opportunities in changing industries. The firm was formed as a result of KeyCorp’s acquisition of McDonald Investments, which took place in 1998. In 2003, the investment banking business that was a part of McDonald Investments was combined with the large corporate-lending business that was housed at KeyCorp to create KeyBanc Capital Markets (KBCM). I am the Chief Operating Officer of KBCM, responsible for all aspects of the company’s equity research, equity trading, institutional equity sales and trading, equity capital markets, debt capital markets sales and training and customer derivatives activities. I also serve as the CEO of Key’s Institutional Broker Dealer, KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.
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Brian and I have worked together for more than a decade. I’ve long admired Brian’s dedication to his family, his faith and commitment to helping those who are less fortunate. His successful transition from an accomplished professional athlete to running highly successful complex businesses, while remaining focused on what is most important to him is what makes him so unique. Brian manages KBCM’s fixed income sales team that covers all the major bond investors as well as managing risk associated with significant inventory positions. He also oversees Key’s customer derivatives activities. His strategic acumen, infectious energy and commitment to his team are what have enabled him to be so successful. Beyond leadership, Brian is one of the most effective client-facing people I have ever met. He readily gets his energy each day from his personal approach to interacting with people. Finally, he is a dedicated husband, father, and grandfather with much to be proud of. Without question, I have benefitted both professionally and personally because of the time that I have spent with Brian.
Mike Nicholas:
Mike Nicholas:
Brian - the bond markets know you as the head of fixed income capital markets at KeyBanc Capital Markets (KBCM), one of the largest banks in the US with a long history of being a leader in the US bond markets. Some of us also know you as the former wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns and not only that, but as the Brown’s fourth all-time leading receiver in your playing days from 1984 to 1991, alongside QB Bernie Kosar. Could we start with you giving us your background? How’d you transition from NFL wide receiver to head of fixed income at KBCM?
Brian Brennan:
Brian Brennan:
First, thank you for the opportunity to share my views on KBCM and my story with Fixed Income Insights. I grew up in Detroit and played football at Brother Rice High School in Birmingham, Michigan. I was a pretty good football and basketball player and it led to several college opportunities. Ultimately, I chose to play football at Boston College (BC) and I majored in finance.
As fate would have it, a quarterback named Doug Flutie arrived my sophomore year. Together, we were a good quarterback-wide receiver combination which helped to win quite a few games and with Doug we gained national attention.
As the 1984 NFL Draft approached, I thought I had a decent chance of being an early-round pick. I played well at BC and the pairing with Flutie helped bring us national attention. It all worked out. I was drafted at the top of the fourth round as the 104th player overall. l ended up playing nine years in the NFL, eight with the Cleveland Browns—who I am still a big fan of—my ninth year was with the Bengals and Chargers. It seems like yesterday.
Transitioning out of professional sports was challenging. Playing in a great sports city like Cleveland really makes you feel special and moving on from that identity is difficult. However, I knew I would have to work after my career was over, unlike today’s NFL player who can retire…really retire! The money today’s player earns is outrageous. I moved forward.
My brother Marty Brennan was a successful government bond trader and encouraged me to give fixed income a try. During my NFL off seasons, I learned the business by working at McDonald Investments. After I retired from the NFL, I interviewed with Merrill, Bear Stearns and Donaldson Lufkin and Jenrette (DLJ). I accepted a sales job at DLJ, where Marty was trading, and I have been in fixed income ever since then.
MN:
MN:
Talk about your time now at KBCM and the changes you’ve seen in the bond markets and some of the changes at KBCM.
BB:
BB:
I wanted to become a fixed income specialist. My time at DLJ in Chicago provided a solid foundation, but I missed Cleveland. KBCM was formed when KeyCorp acquired McDonald Investments so when I moved back to Cleveland, I joined the firm in 1995 as a fixed income salesperson. My experience at DLJ gave me many technical skills across most fixed income products, which seemed to give me some advantage, and I was connected closely to the street through my brother Marty. So, between product and street knowledge, I knew a lot.
The life blood of a regional dealer has always been about building investor relationships; and it still is today. I was able to build several long-term relationships based on trust as a salesperson. I moved forward at KBCM to help expand its fixed income product set as sales manager. Doug Preiser, KBCM’s Chief Operating Officer, appointed me Head of Fixed income in late 2007. He then appointed me Head of Derivatives in 2015.
Doug’s first strategic directive for me was to align the secondary business as closely as possible with the internal origination opportunities provided through the bank. We have been able to do just that. In today’s market you need to be progressive to stay relevant. New issue provides an advantage, but it is also important to support the new issue through secondary inventory commitment. Our new issue business and large capital exposures to support secondary trading activity are differentiators.
MN:
MN:
Bond market structure and the factors influencing it is a topic at all BDA meetings. Could you talk about how market structure has evolved and where you think it’s headed?
BB:
BB:
To say that the fixed income market structure has changed from 1985 when I started as a registered rep is a huge understatement.
Fixed Income has many sophisticated products that trade uniquely. Structured Products and Municipals trade much differently than United States Treasuries (UST) and corporate credit - investment grade (IG) and even high yield (HY). Technological advancements are creating a more transparent and efficient execution model. It has been clear for the last decade that the desire of our regulators is to have the fixed income market resemble the equity market. Systems continue to be implemented in the primary and secondary markets that are pushing more and more of the daily trade volumes through electronic execution. In this business, it is imperative to stay current on technology, but that is not always easy to balance with budget considerations. You need to be careful with each spend.
Despite the technological advancements, the phone is still used for outreach to build relationships. We are in the money business, so trust is still a core value with investors. As for execution, it’s simply not just picking up the phone and saying you are “done” because the trajectory of the electronic-trading market share in all products continues to march on. When markets turn challenging, and liquidity is a concern, dealers become extremely cautious and selective with capital. Electronic trading is not perfect, but market participants during times of market stress can usually get a bid for most securities.
Today almost 60% of USTs are executed through an Alternative Trading System (ATS), and IG and HY credit is at 35%. Corporate credit issuance has experienced exponential growth the last decade from a float of approximately $5 trillion to more than $10 trillion. It is a huge market, so there is a lot of daily flow being executed across the MarketAxess, Trade Web, Bloomberg and other ATS platforms. Even in the more unique markets, the Municipals and Structured Products secondary market flows are seeing a pick-up of trades being executed through a platform.
If you were to ask most fixed Income managers what is needed to succeed as the market structure continues to evolve, I think they would all answer the question the same way: investment in technology and systems is paramount.
MN:
MN:
2022 was a challenging year for bond investors and bond dealers, whether bank or independent. How is business at KBCM and what are you forecasting for 2023 on both the taxable and the tax-exempt sides?
BB:
BB:
The secondary trading activity for any firm is extremely important as it provides daily connectivity to market execution levels and the investors. Information from secondary market execution is ultra-important. The more activity the better the information. To be relevant, you need to provide liquidity to the investor base through capital exposure in the secondary markets. Inventory is necessary and there is no perfectly correlated hedge, you are always at risk.
This past year presented many challenges, starting with the interest rate environment, with the Fed being well behind the inflation curve. We saw 425 basis points (BPS) of rate hikes by the Fed. Add in spread widening across all asset classes for most of the year, and then try to hedge out the volatility in the market—this was not an easy exercise in 2022. Any firm with traditional products inventory exposure in 2022 most likely lost money trading. In some years you can avoid losses, but that was not the case for many firms this past year.
I remain hopeful for more favorable market conditions in 2023. Higher rates and lower volatility should provide a better secondary trading environment for all products. Additionally, Fixed Income funds left the market. Fund flows in all products were negative in 2022: IG had -$126 billion, HY had -$29 billion, and Munis had -$75 billion. This should reverse in a lower volatility environment.
Regarding new issuance, all products saw less volume in 2022. Municipal finance, a staple of the regional community, saw issuance down approximately 20%. IG and HY Credit new issuance volumes were down 18% and 80% respectively—HY essentially shut down the second half of 2022.
As for 2023, I feel issuance will be flat to slightly down. Municipal finance is tricky. Over the last few years states and cities received government stimulus through the America Rescue Plan and the Cares act. These balances reside within the Treasurer’s hands waiting to be used to finance certain projects. They are chock-full-of cash, so the need to issue bonds is less. Finance directors have unused balances to help finance projects. Then add in the potential for higher interest rates in 2023. So, in my opinion, Municipals will see volumes slightly down, especially if rates move higher from where we are today.
In IG new issuance, a market in which we focus, 2022 volume was around $1.25 trillion, which is off 18% from 2021. Issuance will most likely be lower next year with the potential of a recession on CEO’s minds. M&A deals may continue to slow as funding for the transactions have gotten more expensive and rates have risen; however lower stock prices may help to offset the cost of funding. We shall see!
MN:
MN:
There are vastly fewer regional or middle market dealers today than just a few years ago. Certainly, many fewer than when you started at KBCM. What’s the future hold - given the Federal regulatory challenges, business challenges, shifting demographics and overall market structure - for the traditional regional or middle market bond dealer? And as part two to this could you address the challenges an independent firm may have versus a bank affiliated firm?
BB:
BB:
Consolidation will continue both on the dealer side as well as with the buy side. We will see further consolidation in banks. Today there are approximately 4,200 banks from 5,000 banks five years ago, and that number will continue to shrink. Some of these banks that have a small dealer will disappear. The boutique broker/dealers can certainly survive if they have a certain niche and stick with it. For example, a geographic focus in Municipals, a Municipal Advisory business, an ABS banking group, an SBA focus or some other specialty that’s a proven differentiator.
It has become increasingly difficult to navigate the entire market landscape as a bank or non-bank dealer. The many structural changes require dealers to invest across all aspects of their respective platforms to remain competitive, and at the same time margins are under pressure. Dealers need to continue to meet the cost of regulation through diligent compliance and upgrades in surveillance. The cost of technology for connectivity can be daunting, but without making the proper investment you will not see the flow in the secondary markets and in turn, not be able to execute. It is very challenging.
Trying to be all things to all investor clients is not a strategy we would ever employ. We focus in product areas that are germane to Key and where we can provide scale. IG Credit and Municipals are areas where we continue to invest. Certain areas within Structured Products remain a growth opportunity for KBCM.
MN:
MN:
Back to KBCM specifically, how do you differentiate your business and the value to clients? And how has this evolved over the past few years?
BB:
BB:
KBCM continues to invest in the platform, and we have added bankers across the enterprise. This will lead to more origination opportunities through our debt capital markets and public sector banking teams, so we expect to bring more taxable and tax-exempt transactions to market in years to come.
We have invested in our trading desks and made large investments in technology. For example, we have always had a strong commitment to trading the IG credit sector. We recently added two traders to build out an Algo, which is up and running. We are seeing trade count and volume increases with our IG clients. It is an exciting application for the group. Hopefully, the Algo will evolve to other products like Municipals.
KBCM’s value proposition for issuer and investor clients follows a simple strategy. First, generate new issue transactions in credit – IG and HY, Municipals and in certain Structured Products - ABS and Agency CMBS. Second, deploy capital across our focus products on the secondary trading desks. KBCM has more than $1 billion in inventory committed to provide liquidity to our investor clients and to support our issuer clients. Finally, we continue to invest in technology and add quality salespeople to broaden investor relationships for primary and secondary distribution. I would also add that in 2023, Structured Products is a specific area of growth for Key.
MN:
MN:
KBCM is a long-time member of the Bond Dealers of America, and you are a former chair of the BDA’s Board and remain an active member of the Board. The BDA is clearly a stronger organization and more impactful with you and KBCM’s direct engagement. Could you talk a little about the value BDA brings to KBCM and why it’s important that the industry has a purely fixed income focused advocate in Washington, DC?
BB:
BB:
KBCM has been a member since the inception of the BDA. I believe we had about 15 founding firms. Today the BDA has over 75 firms. The BDA continues to provide its members with important market and regulatory updates. The ability to sit with fixed income leadership across many different types of dealers and trade execution providers has been extremely beneficial for me and others at KBCM. The markets have seen significant structural and regulatory change. The BDA has always stayed at the forefront with regulatory guidance and provides a mechanism to interface as peers. It was an active year in 2022, with dealers navigating several regulatory items (FINRA 4210, FINRA 11880, SEC 15c 2-11 and 15c 2-12), as well as market structure changes that required technology investments, and other pertinent issues. The BDA is involved in all important issues.
MN:
MN:
Back to football and the parallels as you see them between your NFL career and your role here in senior leadership at KBCM. Are there specific takeaways from those playing days and working with different coaches and players to your current role at KBCM?
BB:
BB:
Being part of a team is something I have always felt good about. I played in three AFC Championship games as a Cleveland Browns player, I know it takes the entire team to win. A big part of those winning teams was having a positive culture in addition to talent – you need both.
The same goes for working in the fixed income business. You need talent and a team that is moving towards agreed upon strategic goals to win. Every employee at KBCM has a certain role, and together as a team, we have had many solid years of creating a respected platform. I still enjoy the opportunity to be part of this team. I joke, but the physical pain I endured as an NFL player was easier than the mental pain you feel navigating some of the challenging markets. Sometimes I feel that I would rather return a punt against the Steelers than be hit with a market like 2022.
MN:
MN:
Final question. Other than John Elway’s TD drive in the 1987 playoffs, to end the Brown’s stellar 12-4 season, what keeps you up at night now as the head of fixed income at KBCM?
BB:
BB:
January 11, 1987 - a difficult memory. I am still not a fan of John Elway. However, to answer your question, I learned a lot from my Browns’ coaches Marty Schottenheimer and Bill Belichick—both were my head coaches in the mid-80’s through early 90’s—and Nick Saban, who was defensive coordinator under Belichick. They were all ultra-prepared.
So, I guess my biggest worry is whether we are hedged appropriately. We try to be thoroughly prepared for any market move, but when you have risk exposure across the different products, it isn’t so simple.